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27 September 2018, 12:40 | Updated: 28 September 2018, 10:23
September 25, 2014 was a sad day for Take That fans everywhere.
It was the day that Jason Orange announced that he had decided to leave the band, but the boys apparently knew quite a while before.
"In a strange way, we sort of semi-knew it would be Jason's last show with us," he said.
"We sort of semi-knew that, I think. We expected it. We would have all been surprised if he had carried on, he really wanted out at that point.
"It meant a lot of things, that evening."
You can catch Gary's full chat with Margherita in Take That at 30, a special programme celebrating 30 years of the band, on Sunday (September 30) at 9pm on Smooth Radio.